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Take Your Family to Disney World For Free: Step-by-Step Instructions

February 15, 2016 by Brad 201 Comments  Richmond Savers has partnered with CardRatings for our coverage of credit card products. Richmond Savers and CardRatings may receive a commission from card issuers.

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Barrett Family at Disney World for FreeAs featured in the New York Times, CBS and NBC, here’s our step-by-step guide on how to take a nearly free family trip to Walt Disney World ($4,000+ savings) using credit card rewards points!

Are you headed to Disneyland in Anaheim instead? If so, be sure to check out our guide to visiting Disneyland for free.

What We’ll Cover

Use the links below to jump ahead to a section.

  1. The Basics
  2. Step 1: Booking Your Hotel
  3. Step 2: Booking Your Flights
  4. Step 3: Booking Park Tickets
  5. 10 Tips for Success
  6. How to Join Our Challenge Group

The Basic Method

To make this trip happen Laura and I opened a few new credit cards and used them for our regular spending in order to earn the significant signup bonuses that were offered with those cards. Since we pay these cards off on time and in full every month, this didn’t cost us anything at all. We are both CPAs, so being financially responsible is essential to us and we thoroughly researched this before getting started. If this is a new concept to you, you’ll want to check out these basic tips below.

Instead of using our regular credit card that would have earned us a tiny 1% “rewards” back, we opened these new cards and saved $4,000 on our Disney vacation.

Not bad, right? And the best part is that YOU can do this too and it is surprisingly easy!
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Step 1: Booking a Disney Hotel with Points

Nothing beats a free room, and we’re going to show you exactly how to get free lodging with points. Recent changes to hotel programs and credit card bonuses have made this tougher, but we have found ways to work around it. Let’s dig in!

First, you’ll choose between two main hotel options: The Disney Swan/Dolphin or the Sheraton Lake Buena Vista Resort. The Disney Swan and Disney Dolphin cost more points (50,000 per night*), but they are luxury hotels right on-site and within a short walking distance (or nice free boat ride right out back!) of both EPCOT and Hollywood Studios. The Sheraton Lake Buena Vista Resort costs fewer points (25,000 per night*). It’s just a few blocks away from WDW, and it has free shuttle service and lots of other perks and amenities.

*Note: Marriott is introducing new peak and off-peak pricing. So for Swan/Dolphin the rates will be as follows: Standard = 50K; Peak = 60K; Off-peak = 40K. For Lake Buena Vista it will be: Standard = 25K; Peak = 30K; Off-peak = 20K.

Sheraton Lake Buena Vista Resort

We’ll show you how to plan for either property. In some ways you get more bang for you buck (or bang for your points?) at the Sheraton Lake Buena Vista Resort. But the conveniences offered by the Swan and Dolphin are also quite nice, and many of our readers have chosen to book there instead! What you do might be based on the current credit card offers when you apply. Previously, we have seen the Marriott card’s bonus fluctuate between 75,000 and 125,000 points. When it’s 100,000 (as an example), booking the Swan/Dolphin becomes much more attainable than at 75K. It’s still doable with a 75K bonus, but it just makes it far more likely that you will need to transfer Chase Ultimate Rewards to supplement your Marriott points. However, a recent change in Marriott card offers may change the approach here (keep reading!).

Side note: many of our Disney Challenge members want to earn five free nights or more for their trip. Marriott has an awesome perk called the “5th night free” promotion (aka “Stay for 5, pay for 4”). When you book four consecutive nights with points, the 5th night will be free. Using the standard rates, you would need 200,000 points for five nights at the Swan/Dolphin, and 100,000 points for five nights at the Sheraton. Remember if you book at peak or off-peak times the pricing will be different.

Again, the strategy here may change based on current credit card offers.

Marriott Bonvoy Boundless® Credit Card

Marriott Bonvoy CardImportant Note: The information for the Marriott Bonvoy Boundless® card has been collected independently by Richmond Savers. The product details on this page have not been reviewed or provided by the bank advertiser.

You and your significant other could each open a Marriott Bonvoy Boundless® Card. Earn 3 Free Night Awards (each night valued up to 50,000 points) after spending $3,000 on purchases in your first 3 months from account opening. Annual fee of $95 applies.

The other option is to supplement Marriott points/nights with your Chase Ultimate Rewards. We talk more about the Chase Sapphire Preferred® below, and it’s quite frankly the best travel card on the market, in our opinion. With the points from that card, you can transfer some of them to your Marriott account and book additional nights that way.

Total Savings for at least Five Free nights at a Disney hotel: ~$1,500 (assuming $300 per night cash value for 5 nights)


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Step 2: Booking Flights to Disney World with Points

Important Note: The information for the Chase Sapphire Preferred® card has been collected independently by Richmond Savers. The product details on this page have not been reviewed or provided by the bank advertiser.

Chase Sapphire PreferredChase Sapphire Preferred® card, which earns Ultimate Rewards (UR). These points are incredibly valuable since you can either use them to book travel directly through the online portal or you can transfer them to one of their rewards partners such as United, Southwest or British Airways where they become true frequent flyer miles in those programs.

The current sign-up bonus is 100,000 points after reaching the minimum spending requirement of $5,000 (of your regular spending) in the first 3 months the account is open. There is a $95 annual fee.

You’ll each earn the 100,000 point bonus plus at least 5,000 points for your $5,000 worth of spending, so after meeting all the requirements you’ll each have at minimum 105,000 points each.

If you each open this card and fulfill all the requirements as stated above you will now have at least 210,000 points and you have two main redemption options for your flights to Orlando:

  1. The easiest and most flexible option allows you to purchase your flights through your online rewards portal. This is as simple as searching on any of your favorite online travel sites, so nothing difficult here at all! You will get 1.25 cents per point in value this way, which equates to $2,625 in free flights from your 210,000 points. That will give you a lot of flexibility to book on the airline of your choice and $2,625 should cover the vast majority of the flight expense for a family heading to Orlando.
  2. The second option is to transfer these points to one of the partner airlines to book award tickets at that airline. You will want both spouses to send their points to one frequent flyer account and consolidate them there. Southwest Airlines is your best option by far since those miles are easy to use, and you likely will get significantly more value out of booking this way.

Southwest has no blackout dates and the award tickets are based on how much the flights cost, so this was the choice we made. We know many people who booked through the portal for simplicity and convenience, as it couldn’t be easier to book that way.

You also might find some great redemption options with JetBlue or American; it really comes down to your outbound airport.

For the ease of redemption and great value this is simply our top card for flights to Disney World.

Total Savings for flights to Disney World: $2,625 (or more!)

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Step 3: Booking Walt Disney World Tickets with Rewards Points

There are no specific credit cards dedicated to earning Disney World park tickets, but after a lot of research and phone calls we found a way to earn credit card bonuses to cover the vast majority of the expense of the Disney park tickets.

The Capital One Venture Rewards Credit Card is the best option currently.

Capital One VentureThis card is the perfect solution because it allows for flexible travel redemptions; you just pay for the “travel” purchase with your credit card like you normally would. Here’s the lowdown:

The current offer is 75,000 bonus miles when you spend $4,000 on purchases in the first 3 months after you open the account. There is a $95 annual fee. (Plus, get $250 to use on Capital One Travel in your first cardholder year. So it can really be worth $1,000 in travel) The bonus miles are worth $1000 of free, flexible travel.

This card is so easy. Once you meet the bonus, you essentially just reimburse yourself for travel expenses. So nobody knows or cares that you have “miles” — you just simply pay for your travel expense with that card and after the fact you log into your online account to redeem your miles for a travel statement credit which reduces your credit card bill.

Learn more about the and find out how to apply

One other great things about this card is that you can retroactively apply the reimbursement to expenses you made before earning the early spending bonus. So if your first purchases on the card are your Disney tickets (following the “Undercover Tourist” method we outline below), you can still use points to pay yourself back later, after you meet the minimum spending requirement.

This card is very specific about what counts as “travel” to be reimbursed as a statement credit when redeeming their miles. Buying Disney World park tickets directly from Disney will not work to get the statement credit, however, we found a way you can do this!

Using Undercover Tourist

Our top choice to purchase Disney World park tickets with your Capital One Venture is an official authorized seller, UndercoverTourist.com and buying through their site will work as a “travel” expense to redeem your Venture miles as they are coded as a “travel agency!”  We were so impressed with Undercover Tourist, as their Director of Marketing personally emailed with us and confirmed their coding for credit card purposes before we made our purchase. How’s that for customer service??

We have already purchased Disney World tickets through them, so we know this works and you can be confident as well.

If you and your significant other each open one of these accounts your family will have at least $1,500 in total travel statement credits available for Disney tickets through Undercover Tourist. You would then want to each purchase some of your family’s Disney tickets on each card, so you can redeem the bonus points for statement credits on each credit card account.

Undercover Tourist Logo

Undercover Tourist is highly recommended by MouseSavers.com and the famous Unofficial Guide to Walt Disney World, so you know they are reputable.

They also do not charge a shipping cost, so you are able to split your ticket purchase over multiple credit cards and it won’t cost you any additional money.

Total Savings on WDW Park Tickets: $1,500 (if you both open the cards)

10 Rules for Succeeding with your Nearly Free Trip to Disney World Using Credit Card Rewards Points:

  1. Please make sure you are responsible with your credit cards. Responsible means paying them off on time and in full every single month and not spending more on the credit card than you normally would with cash/check/debit. No amount of “free travel” is worth getting into debt or paying interest on your credit card!
  2. In my opinion, it’s easiest to stagger the credit cards you open with your spouse so you’re only working on one card at a time. For instance, I would open the first account and then Laura and I would both use it. We would both put our normal spending on the card until we hit the cumulative spending requirement (paying it off in full each month!). Once done with that account, Laura would then open the next one and we’d keep doing that until we earned all the points for our trip. In the past, adding each other as authorized users could make this slightly more convenient, but given some of the rule changes from a few banks, I recommend that you DON’T add each other as AUs. It will make it more difficult to get approved for more cards later.
  3. As we alluded to in #2, each adult can open each of these accounts in their name and social security number, so for a couple it allows them to really double up on every single one of these bonus offers.
  4. We think it will take most families approximately 12 months to reach the bonuses on all the cards detailed in this plan, and you generally want to book a few months in advance. That means you’ll want to start at least 12-15 months before your anticipated trip if you intend to complete the entire plan. Every family has different spending levels, so if you spend over let’s say $2,500 per month on your cards you can likely cut 3-6 months off the timeline.
  5. Following this plan is not complex at all, but it does require some basic organization to keep track of your credit card accounts and rewards points.ke
  6. Flexibility is a huge key to succeed with travel rewards points, and while we’ve tried to make this plan as simple as possible (no flexibility needed for the park tickets or airfare!), you will need a small bit of flexibility with booking the hotel rooms at the Dolphin. This is a huge hotel with hundreds of rooms per night that are available to be booked with Marriott points, but it does fill up during the holidays and occasionally on random days throughout the year. If you can be flexible even plus or minus a few days that will almost guarantee that you’ll be able to use your Marriott points.
  7. As mentioned in #5, the hotel is the one minor constraint in this system (VERY minor in our opinion), we suggest most people get started on the plan with the Chase Marriott Card
  8. For your WDW park tickets you have a ton of flexibility to open up the credit cards right up until nearly the last minute. As long as you give Undercover Tourist enough time to ship you the tickets in the mail, you can open this last credit card in the month or so prior to your trip, purchase your tickets and then continue using the card on your trip and beyond. Capital One gives you up to 90 days after the travel expense to log into your account and redeem your miles, so you can continue earning to save even more!
  9. Our family spent $159.80 out of pocket for two expenses that you can also avoid with the right planning! There is an $11.20 government fee on all frequent flyer mile flights in the US ($44.80 for our family of four) and the Swan/Dolphin charged us a $23 per day resort fee even on the award nights ($115 for the 5 nights). However, if we had planned ahead even more, we could have opened an additional “fixed value” card to use to pay for these “travel” expenses to really make the trip entirely free.
  10. Getting to/from Orlando International Airport is one aspect of the trip that is not free, but you can use Uber promo codes to save a lot of money. What we suggest is have one of you sign up using their promo code and then refer your significant other. This referral will get each of you a $20 free ride. So that’s three highly subsidized Uber rides you’ll have for this trip. We personally used Happy Limo but many people use the Mears Shuttle to get to/from the airport.

Take Action!

So there you have it, nearly a free family vacation to Walt Disney World for up to five nights at the luxury Dolphin hotel (or many more at the nearby Lake Buena Vista Resort), airfare and park tickets. Just by following the instructions in this article you can save $4,000+ on your family vacation!

Our family had such a great time at Disney World that we want to ‘pay it forward’ and help other families do this as well!

Thanks,

Brad and Laura Barrett

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Comments

  1. Mr. 1500 says

    October 14, 2013 at 12:17 pm

    Brad, great advice! We went there last year and Disney is ridiculously expensive. Advice like this is worth it’s weigh in gold, or Mickey Mouse ears! Thank you!
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    • Brad says

      October 15, 2013 at 8:12 pm

      Thanks Mr. 1500 — I’m glad you enjoyed it!! I still can’t believe we’re saving $3,000 in cash just by opening a few credit cards and using them responsibly. It’s literally a 30% discount on all our spending for a good portion of the year. I really hope others take advantage of this because it’s so easy…

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      • Holly says

        August 6, 2015 at 10:46 pm

        Do you cancel the cards at some point? Otherwise you end up with multiple cards that charge annual fees. Just wondering if that messes with your credit score?

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        • Brad says

          August 14, 2015 at 2:00 pm

          Hi Holly,
          That is personal preference and it is not my place to advise either way, but you are 100% correct that you would be in a scenario where you’re paying annual fees on each card.
          My credit score is currently up by ~15 points over where I started 4 years ago and I haven’t noticed a significant impact at all plus or minus. Your mileage may vary of course, so you always have to determine what makes sense for you.
          Thanks,
          Brad

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          • Tony says

            August 7, 2017 at 8:22 pm

            Some of the cards listed have version’s available that don’t charge annual fees. For example, the Capital One Venture has a no annual fee version. I think the Chase Sapphire Reserve haa no annual fee but the Chase Sapphire Preferred does. I may have that backwards, but 2 minutes on Google will settle it one way or another.

  2. Jen @ Frugal Rules says

    October 15, 2013 at 3:57 am

    Sounds like a great way to earn a free trip to Disneyland. But then again, I wish there is a similar program where the participant can define the reward so long as it is within certain limits and feasibility-wise, it is achievable. A week of free grocery items for example at a certain dollar amount per day. I don’t know if this is too much compared to a free trip to Disneyland but imagine a week’s grocery for free!
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    • Brad says

      October 15, 2013 at 8:16 pm

      Hi Jen, I know what you mean — this is all well and good if you value travel, but if you’d prefer to save on everyday items, this clearly isn’t your best bet. A rewards card that allows you a true statement credit might work for you then; it doesn’t give you the best exchange rate (usually 1%), but it’s still free money! I’d suggest opening the Chase Sapphire Preferred card, which is still amazing. You can find this and other cards here.

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  3. Brad says

    October 15, 2013 at 8:21 pm

    I’m glad you enjoyed the article! I didn’t realize you were into the whole travel rewards world — that’s very cool. I’m planning on publishing many more articles with examples of trips, so maybe something will strike you as interesting…

    I couldn’t agree more that people need to tread with caution when using credit cards and I’m insistent on mentioning that in every related article. This can be mutually beneficial for the consumer and the credit card companies if you put all your spending on the cards and pay it off in full every month. So there’s no loser in this scenario as far as I’m concerned. But people really must be careful or all the rewards in the world won’t offset the interest and years of pain.

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    • Sabrina says

      February 16, 2017 at 10:49 pm

      I agree, it is vital that you pay the credit cards to 0 every month. I have an app on my phone with a reminder every month to pay the card off, and we do it. We’ve missed by a day or two here or there, but over 5 years only paid a total of about $50 in interest fees, so I’d say that is pretty good. We’ve earned so much more in points towards groceries, and saved money on bank fees at the same time.

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      • Thomas says

        February 21, 2017 at 10:50 am

        Absolutely agree. Organization is the key, but it doesn’t take a sophisticated system to keep it all together. If you ever miss a payment (by mistake because you forgot), be sure to call the rep and ask about waiving the late fee. It’s a common courtesy for active customers, especially if it’s a rare occurrence.

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  4. Andrew@LivingRichCheaply says

    October 22, 2013 at 11:06 am

    This sounds good…I will definitely take advantage of this in the future. The Disney Swan and Dolphin being a Starwood hotel allowing you to use Starwood points is a great find. I know many people want to stay at a Disney property for all the extra perks but assume that they are much more expensive. Using points will definitely make it doable. PS: pretty cool that you’ll be on TV! PPS: Not as cool as being on TV, but I included a link to an old post of yours in my post.
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    • Brad says

      October 24, 2013 at 8:13 pm

      I know you guys aren’t going on many big trips right now with the newborn, but definitely keep this in mind the first time you go to Disney! I just love the idea of staying right there at Epcot for free — it’s so great.

      Thanks for the link, I really appreciate it! We’re really excited about the TV stories and will definitely post the link when they are available for viewing.

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  5. Kristen says

    November 7, 2013 at 9:42 pm

    I have used 0% transfer deals and rewards to my advantage ever since I graduated college and it mecame me responsibility. Now 18 years later married with 2 kids the only debt we carry is our house and the rewards card we do have has bought me some very nice things including diamonds!

    I just wantto know what this kind of reward leveraging and multiple cards within the household does to our credit rating? Say for instance we will also shopping for a new mortage or moving soon.

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    • Brad says

      November 7, 2013 at 10:43 pm

      Isn’t it amazing to earn so much from the rewards cards just for acting responsibly? I love the concept of that!

      It’s a great question about the credit rating: I have seen very little change in our credit rating over the past 3 years and 8 different credit card accounts opened. I think our credit rating has dropped about 5 points, which is really nothing at all to earn well over $15,000 of free travel.

      That said, we had a decently long credit history, so small items like opening a few credit cards weren’t going to impact us much, and we weren’t planning on making any major house or car purchases in the next few years. If you’re planning on buying a house, I wouldn’t suggest opening 5-10 credit card accounts because it might just look odd and raise questions. But you certainly can open a few if you find a specific offer or two you can’t resist.

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  6. Jill C. says

    November 7, 2013 at 11:18 pm

    What a great article! We definitely need to use reward cards more to our advantage. Actually headed to WDW next week (saved for 5 years to be able to afford to go). Wished I’d read this a year ago. I noticed many of the cards have annual fees. Once you’ve gotten the points and used them, should you go ahead and close the account? If you do and down the road they offer new incentives for the card, can you apply and receive the new incentives? Is there a timeframe that you would have to wait or do they always recognize you as having had an account so you can’t qualify for new account rewards? Hope this makes sense.

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    • Brad says

      November 8, 2013 at 6:04 pm

      Hi Jill — I’m glad you enjoyed the article so much! Your questions are fantastic ones, so let me try to address them:

      As far as closing the accounts go, that’s definitely your personal preference. Some of the credit cards offer annual bonuses, like Southwest, which offers 6,000 Rapid Rewards points each year. These are worth about $100, so that offsets the $99 annual fee. Others don’t offer you much of anything. Many people have success calling up and asking for the annual fee to be waived in successive years and often they’ll do that or maybe give you free points as an incentive to stick around. If they offer you nothing, then you need to judge whether it makes sense for you to keep it open. Maybe people would close an account at that point. I have left some open, closed some, and it just depends on the circumstances. I do hate paying annual fees though!

      If you close the account and reopen one a few years down the road there is a high likelihood that you’ll qualify for the card bonus at that point. I think it differs based on the card issuer and the specific card, but my understanding is that there’s usually a 2-3 year window where it essentially “resets.”

      I do plan to do more research on this and will try to write a post at a later date.

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      • Nick says

        November 19, 2013 at 8:59 pm

        I want to do this with my family, but I called Barclays customer service, and they told me that Disney tickets are NOT considered “travel,” and that was after speaking to 2 different customer service reps. I live in the Richmond area. Thank you.

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        • Brad says

          November 20, 2013 at 10:39 pm

          Nick: Thanks for the comment, I updated the article to reflect the fact that Barclays cannot confirm whether Disney tickets will count as travel. It seems ridiculous to me that there isn’t an easy answer, but since they can’t answer it, I strongly suggest not buying through Disney. You’ll get a better price from UndercoverTourist.com anyway and I confirmed that their credit card merchant account number ties to the ‘tour agencies’ code with Barclays, so I think we’re set with this now!

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          • Aaron says

            December 30, 2013 at 11:49 pm

            Has anyone actually completed the purchase from undercover tourist and verified that is qualifies as a “travel” purchase on your barclays statement?

          • Brad says

            December 31, 2013 at 5:47 pm

            Aaron,
            I have not yet completed this ticket purchase, so I am not 100% sure. I did spend 3+ hours researching this and spent time dealing with execs at both Barclays and Undercover Tourist who assured me that it would work based on the exact coding of their business. I am therefore 99% sure at this point that it will work.
            I will have a definitive answer for you within 2 weeks and will update it here.
            Thank you for the great question!

          • Aaron says

            January 1, 2014 at 12:12 am

            I can confirm that undercovertourist.com is indeed eligible for the travel cash back reward. A couple of data points; (1) my bonus points posted after meeting the spend requirement but BEFORE the statement closing date. (2) The 10% bonus miles for redeeming on travel purchases posted to my account immediately upon completion of redeeming the reward. Barclays says this will take 1-2 weeks, it was for me instantaneous. Thank you Brad for doing the research and finding that undercovertourist would indeed code as travel.

          • Brad says

            January 1, 2014 at 4:56 pm

            Thanks for the confirmation!! Both your data points are incredibly helpful (and good news), so thank you for passing them along. Thanks for the kind words — I’m really happy to help 🙂 This is such an amazing concept, and I’m glad others out there can benefit from these articles. It’s wild to save literally thousands of dollars just by opening the right credit cards.

            We just booked our July 2014 trip to Bermuda and we have most of the November 2014 trip to Disney booked, so this is going to be a good year of completely free travel!

  7. KK @ Student Debt Survivor says

    January 12, 2014 at 2:47 pm

    My dad lives right outside Orlando and has year-long passes to Disney (in-state rates are pretty great for Florida residents). He and my step-mom have stayed at all of the hotels at Disney. He showed me some “swan” photos and they were pretty impressive. It’s a beautiful hotel and well worth the cost for a special trip-in his opinion (even better if you can book there for free with travel rewards).

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    • Brad says

      January 13, 2014 at 7:37 am

      Great to hear!! We’ve seen pictures and it looks amazing, and we know that since it is a Westin brand hotel the beds will be those “heavenly beds” and all the amenities will be top-notch. Tough to beat since it is so close to Epcot’s front door!

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  8. John says

    January 17, 2014 at 4:56 pm

    Just a comment, there are multiple versions of the SWA card, it would be ideal if one Southwest account holder applies for 2 of these cards for 100,000 points. Why? Because of the Companion Pass, which you earn after you earn 110,000 points on your account in a calendar year. After your spending requirements, you are only a few thousand points away to getting the pass for the current year as well as the following year. Doing it right now ensures that you have the pass for almost 2 years!

    What’s so special about the Companion Pass? Every time you fly Southwest, you can take a companion with you, for free! With the recent news of how much airlines have hiked fares over the past year, it is worth even more now to get a free ticket each time you fly.

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    • Brad says

      January 18, 2014 at 9:58 pm

      Great comment John! The Southwest Companion Pass is the ‘holy grail’ of rewards travel because you basically get ~$3,100 of free Southwest flights for opening two credit cards. If you time it right as you suggest, this can be yours for over a year and a half until 12/31/2015.

      If anyone is interested in learning more, just email me…

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  9. Brad says

    January 18, 2014 at 9:56 pm

    Glad you liked the article Ryan! If you want to get some free one-on-one advice, be sure to sign up for our travel coaching program. No catch, no gimmicks — it’s just free. I’m helping a whole lot of people learn, and it is really a lot of fun!

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  10. Mark @ mortgagesbymark.com says

    January 21, 2014 at 11:59 am

    This is definitely some really great stuff, but I know my wife is a little reluctant to manage additional credit card accounts. With all the rewards programs out there, you could end up opening and closing a lot of credit card accounts over time.

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    • Brad says

      January 29, 2014 at 7:17 am

      I completely understand the hesitation Mark, especially if you and your wife don’t like dealing with a number of cards and payment dates, etc. You definitely can open and close many accounts, so there is a bit to track, but I am able to do it in a fairly simple excel spreadsheet. If you ever want to discuss, just sign up for the free travel rewards coaching and we can jump on a phone call to chat about it.

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  11. Amanda says

    January 31, 2014 at 11:25 am

    I’d like to do this for our family’s trip to Disney in one month! I am considering applying for the card and using it to purchase the 10 day no expiration tickets through the Barclay Mastercard. If I used my first purchase for 2 10-day no expiration tickets, I would get the statement credit plus an additional 2.2% cash back because it’s considered travel? That sounds really good!

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    • Brad says

      February 6, 2014 at 9:13 pm

      Hi Amanda — thanks for the comment! As we discussed via email, yes, you can make the very first purchase on your card the two 10-day no expiration Disney tickets and that would trigger the bonus points (40,000 bonus points when you spend $3,000 in the first 90 days. $89 annual fee waved the first year).

      You can then retroactively apply the bonus against the ‘travel purchase’ of the Disney tickets through UndercoverTourist.com

      Barclays is great that they allow you to go back and apply the points even though you didn’t have them at the time of purchase! You have up to 90 days after your purchase to apply the points, so you can theoretically keep using the card to earn more points to take off your ticket purchase.

      Glad this worked out to save yourself some money 🙂

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      • Lindsay says

        September 14, 2018 at 4:13 pm

        I’m very interested in using this method for Disney! My question is this….do these cards offer 0% introductory APRs? I only ask because if you don’t get your rewards until after your $3,000 in purchases, how would you use those points to pay off the travel expenses that you incurred before you’d need to make the first credit card payment. If there is interest right away, it would need to be paid off in full each month while you wait for the rewards to be posted to your account. By that time, your credit card balance would be zero. I’m just wondering how the travel points get applied to your actual travel expenses if it takes a couple months to reach the $3,000 minimum. Hope this makes sense!

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        • Thomas says

          September 16, 2018 at 11:28 am

          Hey Lindsay, here’s how it works. First…you definitely want to pay the cards in full each month to avoid any interest. Second…the way it works is that once you meet the minimum spend and get the bonus, you use that bonus to offset past expenses. That “erases” them, but if they’ve already been paid for it does so by erasing their equivalent. Does that make sense? So say I had a $500 travel purchase last month, but I’ve already paid it off. This month I got my bonus, and I also made a $1,000 appliance purchase. Well, I can “redeem” my points for the travel, but in essence this actually “erases” $500 of the $1000 current balance…meaning I now only owe $500. Make sense?

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  12. Jacob says

    February 11, 2014 at 1:11 pm

    This was the exact plan we used last summer, but we got into Disney for free through a family member.

    But man, what a find on the Barclaycard! That puts a $800+ dent in your ticket price, making it affordable for most any family!

    I am currently trying to find a condo in Hawaii on AirBnB, because it is classified as travel, but VRBO is not. The subtle difference can means HUNDREDS in savings!

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    • Brad says

      February 15, 2014 at 7:58 am

      That’s really cool you guys used the same method at Disney! Saves thousands, right??

      I did a whole lot of research on those Disney tickets using them at Undercover Tourist and putting it on the Barclaycard, and I’m really glad I did. I know it helped a lot of people through the site and it sure saved us $800!

      I think the Barclaycard Arrival is one of the best cards around, but it is frustrating not knowing 100% if you’ll get to use your points for “travel” like in your VRBO situation.

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  13. Heidi says

    March 6, 2014 at 9:42 pm

    Excellent article! We do this, and this year are going to get many SW plane tickets for free – love my companion pass! Also Barclay, Sapphire, and United. Next going to try Marriott – can’t wait. My wife is a little leery, but so far we haven’t found a down side!

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    • Brad says

      March 11, 2014 at 8:31 pm

      Hi Heidi,

      That’s fantastic you have the companion pass! It certainly sounds like you know what you’re doing with travel rewards 🙂

      I agree with you — I have still yet to find a downside, so I’m going to keep on rolling with this strategy…

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  14. tricia says

    March 13, 2014 at 11:19 am

    We just got our last rewards on our second SPG Amex. Now time to start exchanging points for rewards!

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    • Brad says

      March 17, 2014 at 9:16 pm

      Nice Tricia! I’m so glad the plan has worked out great so far 🙂

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  15. Erinn says

    March 28, 2014 at 11:59 am

    As a former loan underwriter, one caveat on this method – rapidly opening and closing accounts can negatively impact your credit. It can greatly decrease your average age of credit accounts.

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    • Brad says

      March 28, 2014 at 1:42 pm

      Hi Erinn,

      Thank you for your comment — I appreciate you reading the article and sharing your expertise.

      I tell people that I work with through my Travel Rewards Coaching program that this method is not for everyone. Most specifically, if you are thinking about getting a mortgage in the next 1-2 years, or if you do not have a significant credit history (let’s say you’re fresh out of college), or if you have a credit score below 700, then this is probably not something you want to consider.

      I never try to talk anyone into it, as this is a completely personal decision — just as anything that relates to your financial life is. But I do want to point out that I’ve been doing this for about 3 years now, with what most people would consider a significant number of credit cards, and I just checked my credit score and it has INCREASED by 13 points since I started!!

      So I’ve probably earned $15,000 – $20,000 worth of completely free travel and not only has it not hurt my credit score, but it has helped!

      We made the determination a few years ago that even if it did slightly negatively impact our scores that it wouldn’t matter to us one bit, and we therefore decided to move forward. Our scores were around an 800 when we started, and we had a mortgage and it just didn’t matter to us if the scores dropped 5-10 points as most people reported they would. Once you get above a certain threshold, it just is all for show.

      I have read dozens of websites with thousands of comments and I have yet to hear one horror story of this decimating someone’s credit score. I feel comfortable with my family and friends taking part in this strategy, and as a CPA who has a website built around personal financial advice, that should speak volumes about how comfortable I am with what I describe in this and other travel rewards articles.

      Thanks,
      Brad

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  16. Sherrie says

    March 30, 2014 at 7:14 pm

    Thanks for this article.
    These are the kind of deals I always take advantage of!
    Do you know if the $400 travel credit with Barclays would be good on a package (room and tickets) from WDW, or would it only apply to the room portion of the package?

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    • Brad says

      April 5, 2014 at 6:44 am

      Hi Sherrie,
      I’m glad you liked the article so much!
      My understanding of the Barclaycard Arrival points is that it is tied to the ‘merchant category code’ that the company uses to code their expenses. So a hotel would clearly count for “travel” under this system, and if you were able to get the tickets through the hotel then I have to assume they would count as well.
      It is a bit frustrating that you don’t know beforehand, but I’ve spoken with a number of people at Barclays and that’s the best they can give me.
      Thanks,
      Brad

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      • Ashley says

        May 23, 2014 at 11:59 am

        Thank you so much, Brad, for all of the helpful tips! We have our Disney trip planned for the end of the year so I don’t think we have enough time to take advantage of ALL the tips this go-around. But, we are taking advantage of the Barclaycard. We live on a budget (doesn’t everyone!) so we only want to put the minimum amount of purchases on the card to trigger the $400 credit. If I am reading this correctly, can I make $2600 in regular purchases and then $400 on travel purchases, then earn the $400 credit, and then retroactively apply it to my bill. IE I am only spending $2600 on the card?

        My second question is did anyone ever confirm whether WDW travel (hotel/tickets) counted for the $400 travel reward?

        Thanks so much for your time!
        Ashley

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        • Brad says

          May 25, 2014 at 6:47 am

          Hi Ashley,

          I’m glad you liked the article so much!

          You are correct about the Barclaycard Arrival that your tickets can be a part of the $3,000, so your example of $2,600 of other spending and $400 of tickets works for sure. Put another way, you can retroactively apply your points up to 120 days after the travel purchase, so you can put the travel on there as part of the $3k, get awarded the bonus and then apply the points. That is a nice feature!

          One little tip if you’re going to use UndercoverTourist.com like we did: They charge $0 shipping, so I actually checked out in multiple orders to take advantage of the 10% dividend Barclays offers with your redeemed points. This allowed me to use all the points, as I redeemed the first time for the vast majority of the points, got the dividend and then redeemed them against the 2nd ticket in its own distinct purchase.

          Depending on how quickly you make it through the Barclays spending, you can theoretically open the Starwood card and use those points since with hotels if there’s at least one standard room available for cash, you can use your points. So unless you are going at Christmas/New Year’s, there will likely be availability, so you would have a lot of time to take care of that. Just a thought, but I wanted to pass it along.

          To answer your 2nd question, nobody has confirmed for me if Disney tickets through Disney count. I assume that anything put through your hotel bill would count, since it would be coded through the hotel which would come up as a “travel” expense from Barclay’s perspective. But I simply don’t know if you order the tickets through Disney if they will count as it all relates to the “merchant category code” that Disney would be coded under for credit card purposes.

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  17. Mary says

    April 6, 2014 at 9:25 am

    Brilliant ideas! We go to Disney every year in September and, even with free dining or 30% off the deluxe villas, I kept thinking that there had to be a better way. Dear husband has platinum status through SPG and we discovered that we could use points and his suite upgrades to get an awesome suite at the Swan or Dolphin, which is what we’re doing this year! Using the 5th night free promotion, we’re staying at WDW for 10 days this fall…which brings me to my point. For people staying this long at WDW, it might make sense to look into purchasing an annual pass and Tables in Wonderland card. In our case, we’ll be traveling with my parents and, since we always dine together at the parks, only one of us (in this case, me) needs to have the AP/TIW card (it will cover up to 10 people at the same table under one check). How it works is this: I have my AP, which allows me to purchase a TIW card (and, right now, gives me a $25 discount if I purchase the TIW card!). This costs about $350 more than my 10 day parkhopper ticket. However, the TIW card gets me 20% off meals + wine at most Disney restaurants (including counter service and some snack carts) and the AP gets me 15% off WDW tours, 10 – 15% off at Disney-run retailers at the park, 50% off at the Disney miniature golf place, and 20 – 25% off spa treatments at WDW hotels (there are more perks – look them up at the Disney website). Because we’ll be doing character meals/table service dinners around the parks, taking a Discover the Magic tour around Disney and playing mini golf, in our case, this will pay for itself.
    **While there is an 18% gratuity automatically added to all meals, this is done AFTER the 20% discount is taken (which is why this is not merely a 2% savings, as I’ve heard some people suggest).

    Our preliminary numbers suggest that people who stay around 10 days or more (doesn’t have to be consecutive) at WDW per year may benefit from at least getting the annual pass…and those who like character or signature meals (with wine!) and/or like to use the extras offered (like spa, tours and so forth) may find the TIW card to be a better deal than the dining plans offered. Unlike the dining plans, wine and liquor is included and one can choose just how much or how little s/he wants to eat (not tied to app, entree + desert). Personally, we got tired of tipping on outrageously large meals we couldn’t come close to finishing.

    Hope this helps!

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    • Mary says

      April 6, 2014 at 12:14 pm

      One thing I forgot to add:
      If someone is doing the Tables in Wonderland and staying at the Swan or Dolphin, in addition to the 20% off, you can also use your SPG rewards credit card to earn double SPG points when dining at the resort restaurants…and quadruple points (4 points per dollar spent) during certain promotional periods. Currently Shula’s Steakhouse, Il Mulino New York Trattoria, Kimono’s, Bluezoo and Garden Grove (this is a character meal!!) qualify for both the TIA discount AND double points when using your SPG card.

      Currently, SPG is running the quadruple points on hotel restaurants promo through April 30.

      **This information is courtesy of the SPG representative I spoke with by phone this morning. Please call SPG to verify what promotion(s) will be available during your stay.

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      • Brad says

        April 8, 2014 at 8:38 pm

        Mary,
        This is all fantastic information and I thank you so much for posting it here! This will be a big value for our readers now and in the future…

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  18. Steve says

    May 15, 2014 at 6:31 pm

    Thank you for this information, we just signed up for 2 cards. Does anyone know if you are able to book a room other than the Traditional room for Swan or Dolphin?

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    • Brad says

      May 17, 2014 at 9:14 am

      Hi Steve — I tried to reach out to you via email to discuss personally, but to answer your question: You are able to upgrade to a suite for a cash fee each night. The Executive Suite which essentially triples your square footage costs $200 per night in addition to the points.

      Or there’s a really nice Sheraton outside the Disney complex that is only a Category 2 hotel, so you could easily get 2 rooms instead of 1 at the Swan/Dolphin.

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  19. April says

    May 21, 2014 at 3:33 am

    I am a kid at heart and I hope to visit Disney World again and this time, bring my kids and have the best time of our lives. I just love disney and taking a visit to this place for free? Wow! That’s just perfect. I can’t wait to experience this soon and share it with my kids. Thanks for sharing!

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    • Brad says

      May 25, 2014 at 6:32 am

      Sure thing April — I’m glad you enjoyed the article!! This really is an amazing concept and I hope you can make it work for your family. I’d be happy to help, so just shoot me an email anytime you have a question!

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  20. Ryan Hively says

    May 24, 2014 at 5:05 pm

    My family and I are looking to go to Disney LAND. Is there an UndercoverTourist.com equivalent to buy Disney Land Tickets that you would recommend using the Barclay card.

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    • Brad says

      May 25, 2014 at 6:35 am

      Hi Ryan — thanks for stopping by and commenting!

      I am not 100% certain about the Disneyland Tickets, but I believe this site will work: http://www.arestravel.com/ I found them through MouseSavers.com so they are reputable and the only question is their “merchant category code” when their credit card transactions are processed. It has to line up with one that Barclays considers travel and I can’t be sure of that until I confirm it with them or have them run a test transaction. I’ll call them on Tuesday and see if they can answer or if they could just charge me $1 to see if it comes through on my Barclays card. I’ll get back to you.

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    • Brad says

      June 3, 2014 at 8:59 pm

      Hi Ryan,

      I had a great experience dealing with the team at http://www.arestravel.com/ and we 100% definitively confirmed that buying Disneyland tickets through their site will be coded as travel for purposes of the Barclaycard Arrival points!! I am really happy this works for Disneyland as well!

      If you want to sign up for the Barclaycard Arrival Plus card, I have the direct application link above. This will get you ~$500 off your tickets (40,000 bonus points = $400; $3,000 in spending is 6,000 Arrival points for another $60 and you get a 10% dividend on miles redeemed for travel, so that’s worth at least another $40 when all your points are used).

      And if you want to sign up for our completely free travel coaching program, fill out the form on this page and I’ll work with you one-on-one. Thanks!

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  21. Brad says

    June 14, 2014 at 11:17 am

    Hi Anna,
    Glad you liked the article so much! Are you Italian, or an American living in Italy? I know my wife’s sister and her husband are Americans living outside the country and they are able to open these rewards cards quite easily.
    I’ve heard it is much more difficult to find credit cards with massive bonuses outside the US.
    I’d love to help, so let me know if you need more assistance…
    Thanks!

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  22. HD says

    June 17, 2014 at 4:33 pm

    Brad:

    Do you have any suggestions for buying tickets for Universal Studios at Orlando? Or I suppose it is the same strategy used to buy Disney tickets? Thanks.

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    • Brad says

      June 19, 2014 at 8:45 pm

      Definitely the same strategy through UndercoverTourist.com! That is coded as “travel” so it would count for a full statement credit in the case of the Barclaycard credit card mentioned above.

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  23. Mike says

    June 19, 2014 at 10:02 am

    We just comleted the Chase Sapphire VISA promotion, and the wife and I both have about 49000 points in our accounts!

    Next, we will be applying for the SPG Amex cards, but I have a question……..do the Bonus Points really take 8-12 weeks to post to the SPG member accounts? That’s 2-3 months AFTER reaching the $5000 spend during the first 6 months. This may make booking a trip for next summer difficult….

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    • Brad says

      June 19, 2014 at 8:43 pm

      Hi Mike — thanks for stopping by!

      I personally have never seen the bonus points take anywhere near 8-12 weeks, so I would be quite surprised if that was the case. They generally post anywhere from a few days to maybe 2 weeks after the statement close where you hit the bonus spending requirement.

      So it definitely is not the full 6 months plus 8-12 weeks in this case! It would be whatever month you hit the $5k plus 1-2 weeks for posting.

      If your plan was summer 2015 you have a lot of time to make that happen I would think…

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  24. Christine says

    June 30, 2014 at 3:54 pm

    Is it possible for someone to ‘gift’/transfer starwood points to another person not in their household? Specifically, my parents are interested in transferring their points to my family.

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  25. Tara says

    July 14, 2014 at 2:15 am

    One suggestion if you’re Canadian, we have Airmiles here and you can get free DisneyWorld and Disneyland tickets through them. We redeemed in May this year for a 3 day park hopper 🙂
    Now onto opening credit cards for next years trips ! Thanks for all the great info.

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  26. Jodie says

    July 29, 2014 at 7:17 pm

    We are almost done with Amex#2 and Chase #2 spending. We’ll be opening one of the Barclay cards in the next couple of weeks. Once we spend the $3000 on each of those, do you recommend switching to another card to either earn cash rewards for spending money while we are on the trip or begin earning rewards for our next trip? We began in April.. I am guessing we’ll be done with all of these steps in October or November. We will likely travel next fall. I want to get the most out of our spending, but don’t want to cause any problems with our credit by opening and closing so many cards.

    Thank you so much for explaining all of this. We would not have been able to afford Disney otherwise!

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  27. Donald says

    August 4, 2014 at 9:54 am

    Does anyone know if there is a maximum single purchase/transaction limit on any of these cards? I am looking to buy a used vehicle and would be able to satisfy the $5K Starwood purchase requirement (and maybe the Chase Sapphire as well if the dealership lets me split the transaction!) and save a lot of time and headaches instead of reaching the reward levels with smaller transactions. I know a lot of times it will depend on your personal finances and credit score (both of ours are over 800) but thought maybe someone will know a baseline. Thanks for the great info.

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  28. Mike says

    August 24, 2014 at 6:55 pm

    I’m a little confused about this statement …. “It is important to note that you only get a full-value statement credit when redeeming these points for travel-related expenses, so that’s why we say you must spend at least $500 on tickets on each credit card”

    If I have $400 in rewards and $410 in travel/ticket purchases can I apply the rewards against the ticket expense? ($410-$400= $10 balance)

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    • Brad says

      August 24, 2014 at 7:41 pm

      Hi Mike — great question and I’m sorry for not being clear. I just updated that entire section of the article.

      You only get the full value of the statement credit if you redeem the miles against travel expenses. That part is absolutely true.

      In your scenario if you had $400 in rewards and had a $410 travel purchase, you would be able to apply the $400 in rewards leaving you with $10 on your card.

      Alternately, let’s say you had the same $400 in rewards and had a $1,000 travel expense, you could still use your $400 in that scenario to offset that portion of the larger expense.

      Barclays is great because of this flexibility. Final note is that the travel expense must be $25 for it to register, but other than that it is really straightforward and intuitive.

      Thanks,
      Brad

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      • Mike says

        August 24, 2014 at 7:49 pm

        Thank you sir, your experience with undercover tourist has saved me potential loss of use of the Barclay rewards.

        On another note I’m within days of purchasing special Disney’s Very Merry Christmas party tickets, which are available only through Disney. I will report back on how these post to my Arrival card

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        • Brad says

          August 24, 2014 at 8:40 pm

          Glad to help Mike! Those Arrival points really are nice — glad you could make use of them.

          That would be a great piece of data to add to the article, so I’d greatly appreciate if you could report back!

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        • Mike Swantek says

          August 27, 2014 at 9:51 am

          For the record, this is how the Disney’s Very Merry Christmas party tickets (bought through Disney World) posted to my Arrival account. They are not redeemable for rewards credit:

          Description: WDW DISNEY TICKETS
          Merchant Location:*

          LAKE BUENA VI FL

          Merchant Category: AMUSEMENT PARKS, CIRCUSES, CARNIVALS, FORTUNE TELLERS

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          • Brad says

            August 28, 2014 at 6:59 am

            Thanks Mike, that’s helpful information! This shows that Disney park tickets bought through Disney would not be available to use your Arrival Plus miles against, so that lends further credibility to the UndercoverTourist.com method I describe above. That is a great work-around, from a very reputable site, to be able to purchase Disney tickets and still offset the expense with your Arrival Plus miles.

  29. Ronen says

    September 8, 2014 at 11:52 am

    Hi Brad,

    Thanks for the excellent blog. I have a question which I would appreciate if you can answer. I applied for the Chase Sapphire card 2 months ago & have already met the minimum expending amount & received the sign-up bonus. Now, I am thinking of signing up the same card for my wife. I would like to merge points from her account to mine before the annual anniversary & would downgrade her card to something with no annual fees.

    1) Do you recommend this approach?

    2) Do you think there is any downside if we keep repeating the same strategy for other card? In all cases we would downgrade wife’s card before the anniversary. The reason I am afraid of this is because I feel Credit Card companies would eventually find out that we as a couple keep doing it over and over. May be this is the correct approach , or this is completely illegal & I will run into problem with credit card companies I am not sure.

    Thanks
    Ronen.

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  30. Frank says

    September 19, 2014 at 11:04 am

    Thank you so much for this article…I saw it a while ago, and have been working on it since April. I was able to book 5 nights at the Swan for $125 (resort fees), and as soon as the points post, I will have about 100,000 points towards a flight from Chase Ultimate Rewards. One other tip people may want to try is the Hyatt card, when you spend $1,000, you get 2 free nights at any standard room Hyatt in the world. We used that to add two days near Universal. Free breakfast is included in our hotel, and there are NO fees at all. We used our other free nights somewhere else and it was so easy.

    I also am getting ready to buy my park tickets w/ Barclay points through undercover tourist. (I hope this works)! Have you heard from anyone who has done this recently? I tried to contact them to see what merchant code they use, but they have not written me back. : – (

    Do you have any recommendations on cards to get to use to purchase Disney gift cards, or that offer statement credits on dining? I am thinking we will spend $1000 plus on dining for the week. I’d be happy to use you as a referral if you have any good ideas. Thank you!!

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  31. Aaron says

    September 24, 2014 at 11:48 am

    I would just like to confirm Barclay’s is still the best way to pay for tickets. I have not signed up for Barclay’s credit card yet but will be doing so soon to start working towards the $3000 in purchases. I have gotten my 100,000 points on Southwest (in conjunction with Chase) to pay for the flights. My last hurdle is achieving 10,000 more points on the SPG Amex. I will get my bonuses for my card equaling 30,000 points but my wife can not get approved for the card so I will probably have to spend some money on it to earn those points.

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  32. Laura says

    January 25, 2015 at 10:54 am

    I am confused on the The Barclaycard Arrival Plus™ World Elite MasterCard®, what is a statement credit? Do they give you cash back?

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    • Brad says

      January 25, 2015 at 11:06 am

      Hi Laura,

      Thanks for the question: This is essentially cash back or probably more precisely, it “erases” the travel expense on your credit card statement.

      So let’s say your regular expenses on the card that month were $1,000 and your Disney ticket purchased on that credit card was $350. Assuming you had no points, you’d owe $1,350 on your card at the end of the month.

      What you’d do in this case is log in and redeem 35,000 points to offset that $350 travel expense and your credit card bill would be $1,000.

      I hope that helps, but please follow up with any questions 🙂

      Brad

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      • Karen says

        February 9, 2015 at 11:28 am

        How long does it take for the purchase to show up as “redeemable” in the rewards part of the site? I purchased my first ticket from Undercover tourist but it hasn’t shown up yet.

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        • Brad says

          February 9, 2015 at 11:50 am

          Hi Karen,
          The charge usually takes 3-4 days to show up as redeemable. Once it goes from a temporary charge to a completed charge on your credit card account you should see it in the rewards section.
          Here’s a video Barclays made to explain redemptions:
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDeSpqEoye4
          We personally used Undercover Tourist for our tickets and the expense was coded for travel and I know many others who have as well, so you should have a problem.
          Please confirm for me once it shows up!
          Thanks,
          Brad

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  33. Czingo says

    February 6, 2015 at 10:50 pm

    This is a great explanation how to book the DW travel. I’m a rookie in this CC game. The 4 of us would like to go there for Thanksgiving 2015, but not sure we’ll accumulate enough points. So, a few questions:
    Was the room you booked for the 4 occupants? I just want to make sure it’s not like in Europe where room are usually for 2 people and need to pay extra for extra persons.
    Is AmEx the only CC that offers SPG or can I transfer from some other CC like Chase UR card?
    Does AmEx post the 10k bonus immediately after the 1st purchase and then 15k after spending the $5k? Does the 1st purchase count towards the $5k?
    How far in advance should we book the hotel with the Starpoints?
    Since $10k spend on AmEx would be steep for us, but would it work if we apply for the 2nd card after 6months, do the 1st purchase to get the 10k and then take the CC to DW to spend on food towards $5k?
    I’m guessing Starpoints never expire? Where else can I use Starpoints if we’re not into fancy hotels unless they’re located exactly where we travel?
    You didn’t address the food costs at DW. Did the hotel offer breakfast? Any tips about saving for food there because I heard nothing edible is allowed to carry into any DW park.
    So, no shuttle bus to the hotel, right? Either taxi or Uber? I guess we’d need a taxi because we don’t have iPhones or any smartphone for that matter.
    We live in Charlotte, NC. We might even drive to DW. Would we need to pay for parking on the Dolphin’s or Swan’s property? Sounds like you didn’t need a car at all there and you were offered free (?) to the parks by the hotel?
    Thanks so much.

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    • Aaron says

      February 19, 2015 at 5:28 pm

      I got a room with 2 queen beds and told them it was for four people, with two of them being for kids (five and fourteen).

      I looked a while back and did not see any other cards to get SPG points. I signed up twice at different periods, one for my small business and one personal. My wife did not get approved because she does not work.

      Chase does not transfer to SPG, and most cards other do not either.

      I booked my hotel 6 months early, but I am not sure how much earlier I could have done it.

      AmEx did post my first 10k pretty quickly, with the rest coming a couple of weeks after I hit my goal.

      Parking for Swan is $18 per day for registered guests
      Self Parking Fees
      Non-Registered Guest* $18.00 for each exit
      Registered Guest ** $18.00 + tax per day

      http://www.swandolphin.com/feedback/transportation.html

      Hope this helps.

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      • Mandy says

        April 15, 2016 at 10:53 pm

        I know this is an old post but your wife can still apply for credit cards and count household income as her income. A law was passed In 2013 that allows a person in a household that has reasonable access to household money to apply for cc using that total income. I just applied for sapphire and got approved for it , with a 21000 credit limit, and I am a stay at home mom.

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        • Brad says

          April 18, 2016 at 6:03 am

          You are 100% correct Mandy!! And don’t worry, this isn’t an “old” post, as I constantly keep it updated, so your input is quite valuable 🙂

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  34. dydra says

    February 14, 2015 at 8:44 pm

    Can you confirm that purchasing gift cards (at Home Depot, Target, etc.) for later spending do not qualify for the $5k spend in order to get the SPG bonus points? My husband called to confirm the benefits after he got his new AmEx SPG card. When he asked if he can buy gift cards, but was told that he can buy them but they will not qualify for the SPG points. I’m kind of confused. So, I’m guessing that if $5K spend includes a $10 gift card, that’s it, you don’t qualify for the 15k SPG points?? It will be hard to spend $5k within 6mo. considering that we have other CC to tackle along the way.

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  35. Aaron says

    February 19, 2015 at 5:10 pm

    Thank you for this wonderful site. As of today I received my last set of points needed to get my flight completely purchased with reward points. So far I have 7 nights at Disneyworld and roundtrip trip tickets for my family of four, all purchased with reward points. Soon I will have enough points on my Barclay card to pay a good portion of the WDW ticket price. I thought I might be short on rewards points with Southwest but I changed my dates of travel from Sunday to Saturday, and saved over 20,000+ points with the difference. Enough to pay a good portion if not all of a rental car if I choose to do so.

    Very useful article and comments. Thank you.

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    • Aaron says

      February 19, 2015 at 5:11 pm

      Also, with the 5th night free through SPG I had enough points to get upgraded to a nicer room. I could not be happier.

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    • Brad says

      March 4, 2015 at 10:07 am

      Aaron,

      That is such fantastic news!! And thank you for all the extremely helpful comments — it is much apppreciated 🙂

      If you’re looking for additional ways to pay for your WDW tickets each adult can open a Capital One Venture which operates the same way as the Arrival Plus (without the additional 10% dividend).

      That was a really smart move with changing the SW flights! Do you have any Chase Ultimate Rewards points to transfer to Southwest by chance (from Sapphire Preferred, Ink Plus, etc.)?

      Thanks,
      Brad

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  36. Jan says

    March 1, 2015 at 10:43 am

    Thank you for your article. Do you have to be a U.S. resident to apply for the Starwood/Barclay credit cards?

    We are not from U.S. but would love to be able to reduce costs for a Disney vacation.

    Thanks.

    Reply
    • Brad says

      March 4, 2015 at 10:04 am

      Hi Jan,

      Thanks for stopping by and commenting — I’d love to help you save money on your Disney vacation!

      My understanding is that you do have to be a US resident to apply for these credit cards. I guess the easy way to prove this out would be to attempt to apply and see if they even allow you to put in your foreign address.

      Thanks,
      Brad

      Reply
  37. Maggie says

    April 3, 2015 at 10:33 am

    Hi brad I am with visa, can I still get these credit cards?

    Reply
    • Brad says

      April 14, 2015 at 10:52 am

      Hi Maggie,
      I’m not sure what you mean exactly being “with visa”, but if you follow up I’d be happy to help. Anyone can apply for these cards, regardless of what prior cards you have.
      Thanks,
      Brad

      Reply
  38. No Nonsense Landlord says

    April 19, 2015 at 4:15 pm

    Great ideas. I have not yet been a travel hacker to any great degree. I spend a lot on credit cards, and lots of maintenance items for my rentals, but I opt for the cash back cards.

    Great ideas for me to think about.

    Reply
    • Brad says

      April 20, 2015 at 9:40 am

      If you can put a significant amount of your rental spending on credit cards, then this concept is IDEAL for you! If you do any traveling, the signup bonuses on these travel cards will absolutely beat the 1-2% cash back you’re getting from your regular spending. Something to consider for sure 🙂

      Reply
  39. Greta says

    May 13, 2015 at 12:08 am

    Hi Brad – Do you have to keep the credit cards open once you reach the minimum spending requirements in order to redeem the rewards?

    Reply
    • Brad says

      May 15, 2015 at 9:22 am

      Hi Greta,

      Great question! There isn’t a blanket answer unfortunately, but I’ll do my best to answer. Also, look at this post which talks about the 3 types of cards:

      https://www.richmondsavers.com/travel-rewards-101-three-main-types-of-rewards-credit-cards/

      Co-branded cards like the Starwood Amex (or airline cards, etc.): those points end up in your hotel/airline account and from then on they are no longer related to the credit card. Technically if you closed the card within a few weeks of getting the points they could claw them back, but realistically these are yours to keep.

      Fixed value like the Cap One venture/Arrival Plus: These points are tied to your credit card and you MUST use them before closing the card.

      Transferable points like from the Chase Sapphire Preferred: These points reside in your credit card account, but you can transfer them out before closing the card.

      I always keep my cards open for the first 12 months. Then I decide if it is worth keeping and paying the annual fee…

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  40. Donald says

    June 1, 2015 at 1:42 pm

    Hello,

    Thank so much for this site and information. I’ve already used these methods to book our room and flights, but does anyone know if a Navy ITT office is considered a travel agency for the Capital One Reward card redemption purposes? I tried contacting Capital One directly and they were no help, they wouldn’t even tell me which MCC codes were covered under the Purchase Eraser benefit. Does anyone know what Undercovertourists MCC is so I can compare to ITT? Thanks again,
    Donald

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    • Brad says

      June 1, 2015 at 2:17 pm

      Hi Donald,

      Glad you enjoyed the site so much! One of the great frustrations of the Venture and Barclaycard Arrival Plus is that you aren’t 100% sure if it is going to count as a “travel” expense beforehand. With the help of Undercover Tourist I was able to find out that they are MCC #: 4722 and listed as a “travel agency.”

      You can always message Cap One after the fact if it wasn’t originally coded as travel and explain to them that it was in fact for travel, etc. That does work more often than you’d guess! It is a higher risk strategy than just booking through Undercover Tourist though…

      Reply
  41. Chella says

    July 30, 2015 at 8:04 pm

    That plan sounds workable. I think I will try it out and see whether I will make it to take my family to Disney world. In fact, what amazes me if the fact that you can save as much as $1800 which would be spent for six nights at Disney world.

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  42. Chella says

    August 26, 2015 at 9:57 pm

    Disney is way expensive but after reading this article, I feel like I might after all afford a holiday with my kids very soon. Anyway, I liked that article. It was quite informative.

    Reply
  43. BP says

    September 9, 2015 at 2:19 pm

    Several changes were recently made to the Barclaycard Arrival Plus that affect point redemption. Do you know if points can still be redeemed for Disney tickets purchased through Undercover Tourist, or is that no longer allowed?

    Reply
    • Brad says

      September 15, 2015 at 8:36 am

      Hi BP,

      My understanding is that it does not impact buying tickets at Undercover Tourist since this is coded as a travel agency, which is still part of their program. Barclays removed “tourist attractions” from their list of approved travel expenses, so that should only impact items bought from Disney directly as I understand it.

      Thanks,
      Brad

      Reply
  44. Donald says

    September 11, 2015 at 4:43 pm

    Every bit of this advice works as advertised! We started this process a year ago when we knew we had some large purchases coming up. 9 months ago I booked our room at the Disney Swan using our Starwood points ($120 in service fees). 6 months ago, I booked four flights to Orlando ($44.80 in service fees). And today, I Purchase Erased 98% of the total cost of four 5 day park hopper passes from UndercoverTourist off my Capital One account ($39.27 total paid for Disney tickets). I couldn’t be more ecstatic to receive these benefits from purchases we were already needing to make! Disney in November is going to be that much sweeter considering it will be nearly free (except for food). Thank you so much for the advice Brad, I never thought I could take my family to Disney without breaking the bank!!!

    Reply
    • Brad says

      September 15, 2015 at 8:42 am

      Donald!! I always love to hear success stories and I’m so glad you left this comment 🙂

      It’s amazing how easy it can be, right? I’m really happy for you and your family and please let us know how the trip goes. We went in November and it was a lovely time to be in Orlando

      Reply
      • Donald says

        September 15, 2015 at 3:23 pm

        Brad, will do. Now my wife wants to know if you’ve written a similar article for a Disney Cruise option! Hahahahaha

        Reply
        • Brad says

          September 22, 2015 at 2:18 pm

          That’s awesome Donald! There aren’t any specific cards for Disney cruises, but you can of course save money even still on both the airline tickets and the cruise itself if you use one of the “fixed value” cards like the Venture, Arrival Plus or Cap One Spark Miles for Business to pay for the cruise. You can save more if you have multiple of those cards and you can split the cruise expense across multiple cards.

          Reply
    • Kristi SACHTLEBEN says

      August 15, 2018 at 2:44 pm

      i’m still a little confused. we are planning a trip consisting of 4 adults and 4 children 3-8 and an infant. i think we will need 2 rooms. My daughter has her bonus of 80,000 attained through her Chase Business and another 50,000 coming from Chase Sapphire Reserve. I have 50,000 from Chase Sapphire Preferred. We figure we have enough for the two hotel rooms. I am a Florida resident. Trying to figure out how and what we can do to pay for the $3,000 plus worth of tickets for 5 days (don’t need park hopper). How can we earn enough statement credits to get these paid for? not sure what approach to take that requires the least amount of cards and bonuses to get it done, and how to get it done. we’d probably split the kids with 2 in our room and 2 plus the baby in theirs.

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      • Thomas says

        August 22, 2018 at 2:58 pm

        Barclay Arrival Plus and Capital One Venture are quick in the sense that you don’t need to wait for points to post to your account. Another way of saying that, is that the ticket purchases (made at Undercover Tourist) will actually count toward your minimum spend requirement. Pretty significant statement credit from each of those. If you need more tickets than those will earn you, check out these two guides we have — You can actually use your Chase Ultimate Rewards to buy tickets (guide here), and/or you can use Citi Thank You points (that guide is here).

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  45. Jennifer says

    September 26, 2015 at 9:38 am

    Brad,

    Thanks so much for posting this. My family and I are planning to utilize many of your suggestions for our trip next October. I have a couple of questions-

    We already have one Barclay Arrival Plus card open that we’ve previously used for travel, so we will probably open the 2 Chase cards for plane tickets, and the 2 Capital One cards for Disney park tickets. I am annoyed about the upcoming changes to the Barclaycard. We have about 20k points on it now, do you see any benefit to keeping it open? Should I use those points on Undercover tourist for one ticket and the rest through Capital One?

    Next question- we have a Southwest RR account, so when transferring the Chase points into Southwest, how do they transfer? Even amount? For example 98k points in Chase transfers to 98k Southwest RR points?

    Thanks.

    Reply
    • Brad says

      October 1, 2015 at 1:26 pm

      Glad you liked it Jennifer!

      If you have 20k points through Barclays, that will be worth $200 off one of your tickets. I would buy one on that card; it’s free shipping through UT, so no harm there 🙂 The 5% back will likely go unused as they now have a $100 minimum redemption, which is terrible in my opinion.

      Yes, Chase UR points transfer 1:1 to Southwest, so you’re good there! I would only transfer them once you are 100% sure you are ready to book at Southwest. The transfer is instant (like literally seconds), so there’s no reason to speculatively transfer them.

      Also be on the lookout for the Southwest card with a 50,000 bonus!

      Reply
  46. David says

    October 26, 2015 at 10:05 am

    Does the Barclay Arrival points work anymore for redemption on Disney World Tickets through Undercover Tourist? If it doesn’t cover all the costs, does it do some and then you spend on the rest?

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    • Brad says

      October 26, 2015 at 10:19 am

      Hi David,

      I know there were some recent changes to the Arrival Plus card and I actually just fielded this question on another post so I’ll copy the answer here:

      “Great question, as I know Barclays recently changed their categories. My contact at Undercover Tourist wrote me this, “Our merchant category code is 4722. We are listed as a travel agency.”

      I just checked Barlay’s FAQ for this card and it says (emphasis mine), “A travel redemption is defined as: airlines, hotels, motels, timeshares, campgrounds, car rental agencies, cruise lines, travel agencies, discount travel sites, trains, buses, taxis, limousines, and ferries as defined by the merchant category code.

      So I’m as certain as I can be that it will still work.

      Thanks!
      Brad”

      Reply
  47. Jamison says

    December 29, 2015 at 7:00 pm

    The link to the ebook is dead

    Reply
    • Jay Stemple says

      January 2, 2016 at 11:39 pm

      Nevermind, my mistake, it works, thanks

      Reply
  48. Jay Stemple says

    January 2, 2016 at 10:36 pm

    I’m sure this has been asked in the extensive comments, but humor me 🙂

    Just so I understand it, here’s a hypothetical;
    I open a Barclay card.
    I meet the minimum spending amount (Easily for us), I get the 40K miles/points.
    A few months later, my wife could then open a Barclay card, do the same, and collect the 40K miles/points.

    Can those get “combined” or would we just have to buy, say, 2 tickets on my card, 2 on hers, then credit back as much as we could on each one when the time comes to redeem our points?

    Moving on, a few months later, could I get a Starwood card, meet the minimum, then a few months later my wife do the same?

    Again, could THOSE get combined onto one account?

    The reason I asked is because I called the Barclay people. They acted like having my wife as a JOINT user would allow me to get MORE points and that it was unheard of to have 2 separate accounts in the same household.

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    • Brad says

      January 4, 2016 at 3:01 pm

      It’s a great question!!

      Barclaycard does not allow you to combine the points into one account, so you theoretically would have to make two separate purchases at Undercover Tourist. Shipping is completely free, so there’s no detriment other than a few extra minutes of time 🙂

      You and your wife would each open every single one of these cards, so no doubt about that! It is not unheard of at all for each of you to get an account in your name/SSN and each get the bonus.

      Starwood points CAN be combined into one account actually, which is great! This allows you to take advantage of the “5th night free” promotion by having at least 50,000 points in one account.

      Hope that helps!
      Thanks,
      Brad

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      • Christy says

        January 8, 2016 at 4:35 pm

        Do the accrued points ever expire? We plan to take our first Disney trip in 6 weeks so figure this does not help us now, but we can start preparing for our next one!

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        • Brad says

          January 9, 2016 at 3:41 pm

          Always a good time to start planning the next WDW trip Christy!! 🙂

          I wish I could give you a short answer to your questions, so I’ll say yes and no. The points do expire theoretically, but there are easy ways to extend the expiration on most, so realistically if you’re going in the next 2-3 years then you can absolutely start now!

          I’d love to help and as you’ve probably seen on the site, I offer 100% free ‘travel coaching’ and it would be great to get you moving in the right direction. I also have a Disney checklist and a more in-depth Guide that I can send you. Shoot me an email at brad(at)richmondsavers(dot)com and just put Disney in the subject. Looking forward to hearing from you!

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  49. kym says

    February 6, 2016 at 6:01 pm

    Wow this is amazing! Disney is so gosh darned expensive. Thanks for the insight. It would be wonderful to spend some time there and not feel like we lost our shirts.

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  50. EL @ MoneyWatch101 says

    February 10, 2016 at 3:17 pm

    It seems like a great plan and you mention all the benefits and some drawbacks. Going to Disney for free is a great cost savings for a fun family vacation. I appreciate you sharing the details, thanks.

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  51. Brittany says

    February 11, 2016 at 12:00 pm

    I’m looking into signing up for the Chase Sapphire, but we’re going to Disney in April and need to book now. If I go ahead and get the card to pay for flight, tickets, hotel, etc. is it still beneficial within 2 months of going? How will I use the reward points? Is there a statement credit applied after spending the req. 4,000 points? Sorry, inexperienced traveler here.

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    • Brad says

      February 12, 2016 at 8:58 am

      Hi Brittany: Based on your timing you’d be much better served going with the Capital One® Venture® Rewards Credit Card right now. You can pay for all your travel expenses with the card as part of the minimum spending requirement. Then after the fact log into your account and redeem your miles for a statement credit. Very easy!

      If you think you could hit the minimum spending requirement on more than one card with the Disney expenses and other regular life spending, you can open two cards and just be sure to put some of the “travel” expenses on each card so you have expenses to apply the miles against. This can be a really easy way to save a good bit of money 🙂

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  52. Jessica says

    March 6, 2016 at 10:07 am

    Thank you for all the great advice. I got approved for my Starwood card yesterday, but when I spoke to someone at American Express, they said if I add my husband as authorized user, he would need to wait a year to apply for his own card. Is this true?

    Reply
    • Brad says

      March 9, 2016 at 3:09 pm

      Hi Jessica,
      You are welcome!! You are going to love following this plan 🙂
      Unless Amex changed their rules in the last few days and didn’t tell anyone, then that customer service rep was completely wrong. My wife and I have each opened this card even though we were authorized users on each other’s accounts. I know many hundreds of people who have done the same and nobody had to wait 12 months to get their own bonus.
      Unfortunately you sometimes just get a bad rep, so it makes sense to “hang up and call again” as people put it.
      Thanks!
      Brad

      Reply
    • jaystemple says

      March 9, 2016 at 10:03 pm

      Call them back again at a later time. I found you can get almost anything with AmEx depending on what rep you talk to. If one tells you something you think is wrong, just call again and get another one.

      Reply
  53. Sherri says

    March 27, 2016 at 7:16 pm

    Hi. I’m a little confused about how the payment would work for the Capital One card. We are looking to go to Universal Studios in June and I’d like to put that on the Capital One Venture card. If I pay my bill in full the first month where my travel expenses are, but don’t earn the bonus until the 2nd month, can I get credit for a travel purchase already paid? I understand the “within 90 days” but if it’s paid already how does that work?
    Thanks!

    Reply
    • Brad says

      March 27, 2016 at 8:09 pm

      Hi Sherri,
      It is a great question! Yes, you absolutely can and would get the credit in that second month. It’s slightly confusing theoretically, but easy to actually do:
      You technically have to “apply” the miles against a prior travel expense, but the way it operates is to give you a statement credit (reduction) on your current bill.
      So your 2nd month bill would be reduced by let’s say $460 if you had 46,000 miles for instance.
      Hope that helps but please follow up with any questions!
      Thanks,
      Brad

      Reply
  54. Jamie says

    April 1, 2016 at 8:13 am

    Hi! We are a homeschooling family and I am looking to purchase student seminar tickets through Disney’s website. I am wondering which credit card would be best to apply for and use? I would like to get a statement credit back. I spoke with a rep with the student seminar classes yesterday and asked him how the tickets would be coded, but he had no idea. I just don’t want to sign up for a card if I’m not going to be able to redeem the miles/ points for a statement credit or check. Thank you so much in advance!

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    • Brad says

      April 1, 2016 at 8:42 am

      Hi Jamie! Unfortunately you’re almost never going to get a rep who knows how their purchases are coded, which is frustrating. I wish there was a clearer answer, but it is very unlikely that anything paid for through Disney will be coded as “travel.” I’ve had people try it in the past and they reported zero success.
      Though it isn’t the “ideal” redemption, you could open a Chase Sapphire Preferred card and then redeem for cash. That will still earn you a nice big check back 🙂
      For more info: https://www.richmondsavers.com/top-credit-card-offers/

      Reply
      • Jamie says

        April 1, 2016 at 10:16 am

        Thank you pointing me in the right direction on the best card for what I’m trying to accomplish! lol! 🙂 I love your site! Very clear information! 🙂

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  55. Misty says

    April 19, 2016 at 1:31 pm

    Hi Brad! This is such an awesome idea! I am just starting to plan a Disney World trip, looking at Jan-Mar sometime next year, so a little close on making the requirements in time, especially because I would need to be booking at least hotel here really soon. My biggest question is: we are really set on staying at a Disney Property. I am actually looking at renting Disney Vacation Club points to be able to stay at one of those resorts for a lower price. There are several websites that are basically a “travel agent” for points rental, if I verified with them what their charge code would be, would I possibly be able to use another card similar to the Barclaycard to redeem points on that? I really appreciate the help!

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    • Brad says

      April 20, 2016 at 8:41 am

      Nice, glad you like the plan Misty!!

      Yes, if you can determine their ‘merchant category code’ for credit card charges then you can determine for sure if they’ll be considered “travel expenses” for Barclaycard and Capital One

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  56. Leah says

    May 24, 2016 at 11:08 pm

    Hi,
    I am still a bit confused on the opening of the cards n so forth … so my family is a family of 5 : 3 children under the age of 8 … the airfare from houston to orlando is pretty expensive … So to get money or rewards for the flight … i open the cards n use it on everyday spending and I have to spend 4000 on that card within 3 months ?? Sorry I need helppp

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    • Brad says

      May 25, 2016 at 7:44 am

      Hi Leah,
      You earn these large bonuses on the credit cards when you reach the “minimum spending requirements.” For instance, on the Sapphire Preferred it is currently spend a cumulative $4,000 in the first 3 months. You are paying the cards off on time and in full every month of course, so it costs you nothing.
      You then take those bonus points and use them to get some of the Disney trip for free (as I describe above). If you’re serious about moving forward with this, shoot me an email: brad(at)richmondsavers(dot)com

      Reply
  57. Jen says

    May 31, 2016 at 2:57 pm

    Brad, this info ROCKS! I am working on following your guidance and am planning our trip for November. This is my first foray into the world of points spending, though, and I’m facing some difficulty. I hope you’ll forgive my ignorance, but I have googled the heck out of this topic to no avail. I’m sure I’m missing something obvious. HOW do I reserve Southwest flights using points? Is it the same–purchase them and then transfer points for reimbursement? Or is there some other way to do it on the front end? Thanks so much for your help. Thanks so much for this article.

    Jen

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  58. Emily Jewett says

    June 22, 2016 at 10:11 am

    Thank you for your helpful blog post and checklist! I modified it slightly, in that we don’t have SouthWest where I live, and I have been banking my Barclay points knowing we’d go to Disney. I couldn’t figure out how to use the points for the tickets, though, until I stumbled upon your site! Thanks to your advice, we used points for $1400+ in park tickets, signed up for and received the SPG bonus points (I signed up when the bonus was 35K so we received 70K points!). Eight nights of hotel at the Swan booked with points. Flights booked on Allegiant, and in another month I’ll have enough points to cover that expense too. Because of this, we can enjoy some of the extras like the fireworks cruise and several character meals. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!

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  59. Brittany says

    July 19, 2016 at 7:32 am

    Hi Brad, I’m so looking forward to be going to Disney using this plan of credit card rewards. I do have a question though. You stated above that Capital One will save you more money towards Disney tickets compared to the Barclay. What is the difference? I have looked into both of them and they both seem to have the same reward points per dollar spent.

    Reply
    • Brad says

      July 19, 2016 at 8:14 am

      Hi Brittany!! Glad you’re excited 🙂 If you’re going to follow through on this plan, you should definitely join our group:

      https://www.richmondsavers.com/keys-to-the-magic-kingdom-challenge/

      I’d love to help you and your family!

      Very minimal difference between Arrival Plus and Venture as you stated; when I said “more money,” I meant additional if you opened a few of these credit cars, not that Venture in and of itself would be superior to Arrival Plus. Hope that makes sense now 🙂

      You can find both cards here:

      https://www.richmondsavers.com/top-credit-card-offers/

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  60. Scott G says

    July 27, 2016 at 10:18 am

    Hey Brad, my wife and I are in the middle of the planning process for a trip to Disney in the Spring of 2017. We have just completed “Phase 1” and now have enough Starwood points to stay at either the Dolphin or the Swan. Everything went off without a hitch. We went online and applied for cards, first for me with her as a second user, then for her with me as a user. Now we need to start working on airline tickets. Does the Chase Sapphire work the same way as the Amex where we can open a card for me with her as a user then open one for her with me as a user? Also we appreciate the time and effort ya’ll put into the research and for sharing this information.

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    • Brad says

      August 8, 2016 at 10:36 am

      Sounds like it is going wonderfully Scott, glad to hear it!

      Yes, the Sapphire Preferred works the exact same way, so you each can get the bonus. Same holds true for all cards 🙂

      Reply
  61. Zed says

    July 27, 2016 at 3:42 pm

    Brad – I took the travelmiles101 course and I am starting planning a Disney World trip for 2017. So far, so good. I noticed parksavers.com has a significant discount on 7-day tickets:

    https://parksavers.com/product/adult-7-day-myw-park-hopper-ticket-3-days-free/ref/DTB/?campaign=wdw7

    Do you know if Park Savers charges will code as a travel expense (similar to Undercover Tourist)?

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  62. Patty says

    August 4, 2016 at 6:42 pm

    Thanks so much for this! We are planning our honeymoon for about a year from now and we need to find ways to save with the giant expense of the wedding really taking a toll on our travel budget. I wanted to go to Disneyland/Hawaii. A lot of these points can definitely be carried over to Disneyland as well. They have a Starwood hotel not too far from property and airline travel is the same regardless.

    One side note: Uber cannot go to the airport here in Orlando it breaks their rules for being allowed to run in this market. Once I had to pick a stranded co worker up at MCO because they didn’t realize Uber was not allowed.

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    • Brad says

      August 8, 2016 at 10:41 am

      Great stuff Patty and congrats on your upcoming honeymoon and wedding! Yes, Disneyland should be an easy one as well — I just published a new article about it:

      https://www.richmondsavers.com/take-your-family-to-disneyland-for-nearly-free-step-by-step-instructions/

      And on my site TravelMiles101.com I have a lot of info about Hawaii. That’s surprisingly easy to do with miles & points

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  63. hwan says

    August 25, 2016 at 8:09 pm

    What a great post….. So, does undercover tourist still count as a travel agency?? For example, if I use my chase sapphire preferred, will I get 2x points?? Another question, what other sites are out there that are coded as travel agencies such as Undercover Tourist (Apart from the obvious such as expedia). Thank you so much…

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    • Brad says

      November 16, 2016 at 2:31 pm

      glad you liked it Hwan!! Undercover Tourist is definitely still coded as a travel agency. Since that’s something they setup at the outset (years ago), I can’t imagine it changing. So I think we’re good 🙂

      I don’t have a list of travel agencies unfortunately, but I would strongly assume that most sites that are clearly a “travel agent” would be coded for credit card purchases as a travel agency. You can always try to ask first!

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  64. Jennetta Brockman says

    October 10, 2016 at 12:47 pm

    I’ve been doing some credit card hacks for a while now, in part to help fund mine and my daughter’s trip to Disney World in May of 2016.
    However, it’s just me that can register for new cards to earn rewards. I’m single and she’s only 14/15.

    I’m considering your course, but want to know if your recommendations are always for a couple?
    Thanks,

    Reply
    • Aaron says

      October 21, 2016 at 12:38 am

      I did it all myself without the help of my wife so it can be done. It just requires a little more work and time. Instead of a card for myself and my wife I got a personal card and small business card for example. Just make sure to not over reach and get more than one card at a time, so you can make sure to meet the needed dollar amounts. I used Barclay for tickets, Chase and Southwest for my airplane tickets (Chase transfers to SW) and SPG for the hotel points.

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      • Aaron says

        October 21, 2016 at 12:47 am

        Oh and just so you know. I am with a family of four, and I spent about $500 out of pocket with the airline tickets out of $2600. I will end up spending $200 out of pockets for the park tickets out of $1500 and the hotel was completely taken care for 6 nights with SPG and their free night deal. I did end up working this for over a year so so I cancelled some cards and kept a couple, so there is a couple fees thrown in there.

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    • Brad says

      November 16, 2016 at 2:34 pm

      Hi Jennetta!
      You can definitely do this plan with only one person, no question about it.
      We’d love to have you as part of the group 🙂

      Reply
  65. Aaron says

    October 21, 2016 at 12:36 am

    Can anyone verify Undercover tourist still works for Barclay and redeeming my points? So far I used this website’s advice to get enough rewards to buy my airplane tickets (for four people), hotel at the Swan hotel and as soon as I get a response I will also have my Disney World tickets too.

    Thank you.

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  66. Mig San Juan says

    November 28, 2016 at 1:36 am

    Just found this website and I’m excited to give this a try. But I was wondering if I could substitute chase sapphire for Capital One Venture card?

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    • Brad says

      November 28, 2016 at 9:27 am

      great, glad you enjoyed! Use Sapphire to buy Disney park tickets you mean? You possibly could through the Chase portal (I’m not sure honestly), but that would be a really bad redemption for those Chase UR points. I’d highly recommend saving them to transfer to one of their transfer partners and redeem that way. Much more value

      Reply
  67. Dakota Bridges says

    December 6, 2016 at 6:44 pm

    Hey I really don’t mean to be rude but does this plan actully work?? Cause I really do not want to do this and it does not work.

    Reply
    • Brad says

      December 7, 2016 at 10:54 am

      Dakota: I’m not sure how to answer this question honestly. If you’ve read this post and all the detail I provided and also read that we’re CPAs (so not jokers off the street) and that we were featured in the NY Times, NBC, CBS, ABC, etc. about THIS EXACT TRIP and that we’re working with hundreds of families across the country do this exact same thing and you still are finding it impossible to believe, then I don’t think there’s anything I could do to convince you.

      It works. Simple as that. And it’s remarkably easy. I’d love to help you, so if you are interested, sign up for the Disney Challenge group we mention. Thanks 🙂

      Reply
    • Jay Stemple says

      December 7, 2016 at 11:16 am

      Does it work… hmmmm….
      If you have the maturity to do it, yes. If you are bad with money, can’t budget your income, and regularly spend more than you make, then DO NOT TRY THIS!
      We were NOT excited about having 3 different credit cards (So, we only did 2 of the 3 steps, and only half of one of those).
      In 2 weeks we are going to Disney World and staying in the Swan hotel for free for 4 nights.
      About 60% of our park tickets were paid for by another card.
      So, does it work? Yes, if you are careful in spending your money and STAY ORGANIZED.
      Otherwise, do not attempt this, it can EASILY get out of hand.

      Reply
      • Brad says

        December 12, 2016 at 8:56 am

        Jay is 100% correct and I tell every person thinking of trying it the same thing. You have to be smart and organized and then this is easy. If you have problems with credit cards or staying under control then run away as fast as you can. Simple as that!

        Reply
    • Lizett Garcia says

      January 7, 2017 at 11:46 am

      It works if you are persistent, organized, and know how to control your money. I could not have done this a few years ago because I didn’t know how to limit myself with purchases. And if you can’t control your impulse buying and you have these credit cards then your impulse buying will get you into debt. This program is not about getting into debt. You use the credit cards as a means of getting points to do amazing travel. You simply pay your regular monthly bills with these cards, transfer the money for those bills from your bank account to the credit and if you meet the deadline get points. I was worried to when we first started, but I stay on top of our bills and we’ll be going to Disney World in May 🤓👍🏼😆😊

      Reply
  68. Kacie says

    December 8, 2016 at 10:01 pm

    The Disney Visa card from Chase sometimes has targeted offers for a no-fee card with a $500 spend in I think 3 months, and then getting a $200 Disney gift card in return. The card is nice to have — there are a few meet & greets for only those card-holders, plus a few restaurants in the parks offer a 10% discount.

    You can use that $200 gift card toward souvenirs, food…and maybe even park tickets if you’re buying directly through Disney.

    Reply
    • Lizett Garcia says

      January 7, 2017 at 11:33 am

      Thank you for that!!!! I was wanting to get a card this.

      Reply
  69. Lizett Garcia says

    January 7, 2017 at 11:32 am

    We’ll be taking our trip to Disney World in May 2017. I cannot believe how ridiculously cheap it’s going to be!!!! Our flight is going to be $45 because of fees that need to be paid through Southwest and our Dolphin Hotel fees will be $160. We’re working on the Barclays CC right now for the tickets. We’re not big on spending money on souvenirs, so we’ll just pay out for food, airport transportation, and experiences. Amazing!!!! THANK YOU!!! THANK YOU!!! THANK YOU!!!!

    Reply
  70. Shelli Young says

    January 16, 2017 at 2:31 pm

    Hi! Since this arcticle was written several months ago, I was curious if the Barclay website still accepted the code as travel from Undercover Tourist? We wanted to sign up for the challenge, but we are only looking to buy tickets as we already purchased our rental through DVC. :/ Bummer! It is pretty discounted though compared to Disney.

    Also I have been working with a lady who is a Travel agent….makes me wonder if I bought through her, it would also be coded as travel.
    Thanks!

    Reply
    • Thomas says

      January 16, 2017 at 5:32 pm

      Hi Shelli,

      I’ll chime in for Brad, though he may circle back with more commentary later. Yes, the Undercover Tourist approach will still work and is coded as travel. And, that’s a really good question about your travel agent. Yes, we have seen reports that this counts as travel on the Barclaycard (as it should). The key is that it is coded as “travel merchant.” You can double check this with your travel agent, as they should be able to confirm how their transactions are coded.

      Reply
      • Shelli says

        January 16, 2017 at 9:33 pm

        Thank you! I will ask her!

        Reply
  71. Megan says

    February 28, 2017 at 7:28 pm

    What do you recommend for a family of 6- 2 14 year-olds and 2 6 year-oldso and 2 adults? It doesn’t look like the Dolphin or Swan has rooms that accommodate larger families. Thanks in advance!

    Reply
  72. Olesya says

    March 9, 2017 at 4:35 pm

    Great post, I think I need to read it 5 more times though to make sure I understand the whole process. Question: Do you think this would work in other Disneyparks? Such as Disneyland CA, or Disneyland Tokyo or Paris (or the Chinese ones)??

    Reply
    • Thomas says

      March 9, 2017 at 8:44 pm

      Hi Olesya,

      Yeah I know what you mean! Lots of info at first, but you’ll pick it up quickly! This would absolutely work in other locations, specifically Disneyland in CA. Here’s a guide for exactly that: https://www.richmondsavers.com/take-your-family-to-disneyland-for-nearly-free-step-by-step-instructions/

      As for international parks, I’d imagine the limiting factor is getting the park tickets to count as “travel.” But you could definitely find creative ways to get hotels and flights.

      Reply
  73. Tracey Sabolevski says

    April 1, 2017 at 4:57 pm

    Is it possible to book a hotel stay at the Dolphin before you have all the points, then use the points retroactively? We are planning a vacation for November 2017, but we need to book hotel rooms soon. I am just reading your article, so I’m trying to figure out what we can still do to save $ in the time we have available. Thank you!

    Reply
  74. Tracey says

    April 1, 2017 at 4:59 pm

    Does AAA count as a “travel merchant” if you purchased Disney tickets through them?

    Reply
  75. Chris sure says

    April 2, 2017 at 5:48 pm

    from what i’ve learned so far, It only works out well if you are persistent and organized with your thing, also know how to control your money, that way things won’t get out of hand.

    in all, its worth giving a best short.

    Thanks Brad for sharing

    Reply
  76. M. D. says

    April 29, 2017 at 2:50 pm

    If I purchase discounted tickets at Shades of Green do you know if that is considered “travel”. They said it is charged under Shades of Green’s name

    Reply
    • Thomas says

      May 8, 2017 at 9:02 am

      I believe that “should” work. Hotels/resorts are considered travel, so as long as they don’t bill the tickets in some other way you should be fine.

      Reply
  77. Jennifer Roberts says

    June 1, 2017 at 10:58 am

    We just finished earning our hotel stay! I am so excited. As a child, my family went to Disney World numerous times. We drove down from NY and had relatives in the area to stay with, so it was more affordable. I have been wanting to share the experience with my two boys, but thought it was something we would never be able to afford. Thanks to your advice, we are going to be able to do it!

    Reply
  78. Lauro says

    June 13, 2017 at 9:27 am

    So many credit cards opened. I wonder how much time you will have to spend to cancel every one after usage to avoid paying annual fees after 1st yr

    Reply
    • Thomas says

      June 19, 2017 at 10:38 am

      Hi Lauro, if you choose to cancel a credit card the process doesn’t take much time at all. Maybe a 5 minute phone call.

      Reply
  79. Chris says

    July 16, 2017 at 12:50 pm

    Just to let everyone know, the Dolphin and Swan rooms only allow for up to 4 people to stay in them. We have 3 children, so with me and my wife we would have to book 2 rooms. Which is pretty unrealistic. The 5+ rooms you can’t book with points.

    Reply
    • Thomas says

      July 17, 2017 at 8:23 am

      Hey Chris,
      Did you ask the hotel at which age kids count toward the occupancy limit? I wonder if you might be OK with 5? Also, in our private Facebook group, we’ve had some folks recommend the Sheraton Lake Buena Vista, which might be an alternative property to consider.

      Reply
    • C says

      January 28, 2018 at 12:17 am

      We just booked for a family of 5 at Dolphin using points. Swan max occupancy was 4, but Dolphin’s was 5 people. We booked 6 nights using only points and got our 5th night free!

      Reply
      • Thomas says

        January 28, 2018 at 10:54 am

        Great work! Hope it’s a great vacation!

        Reply
  80. Cory H says

    July 25, 2017 at 9:11 am

    Brad, Thanks so much for all this advice…We just got back fro our nearly free Disney World Trip for 2 adults and 2 kids. We used the Chase Southwest Card (one account for each of us) to book the flight, Capital One Venture cards to pay for the Park tickets via Undercover Tourist, SPG Amex cards to book our 7 night(!) stay at the Walt Disney World Dolphin (great hotel!), and finally used a Citi Double Cash card to accumulate straight cash to help pay all out of pocket expenses (Magic Bands, Memory Maker, meals, airport transer, stoller rental, resort and credit card annual fees)…All told our actual out of pocket cost for the 8 day trip (priceless…lol) was around $500 (instead of $6-7K)…Next trip….California!

    Reply
    • Thomas says

      July 28, 2017 at 2:10 pm

      Nice work, Cory! That’s an insane amount of savings for a week long trip, and I hope you guys had a blast!

      Reply
  81. Ellen wallace says

    September 11, 2017 at 11:40 am

    Have you found a way to save on food at the Disney parks? (Besides packing peanut butter sandwiches lol)
    If we asked family for Disney gift cards for Christmas do you know if the restaurants take these?

    Reply
    • Thomas says

      September 13, 2017 at 2:38 pm

      Ellen, these are both great questions. I hope to do some research and report back! Maybe with a post on this topic specifically. Thanks!

      Reply
      • Karen says

        September 13, 2017 at 3:20 pm

        Disney owned restaurants will accept Disney gift cards. If you are using magic bands, you can pay down your balance at your resort front desk with the gift cards. If you buy them at Target with your Red Card, you save 5%. Other suggestions are to split meals, ask for entrée only at counter service restaurants ( you don’t have to get side items), eat breakfast in rooms (most have refrigerators).

        Reply
        • Thomas says

          September 15, 2017 at 9:17 am

          These are some great tips, Karen!

          Reply
  82. Shie says

    October 7, 2017 at 7:26 am

    Brad, thank you for this great article. I had to read it few times to let it sink. I will sure follow this steps.

    My husband just recently opened his SPG (I will open next) and I was wondering if I can make a reservation now to hold th room for us during our preferred travel dates and then just use our SPG points later on when we receive the bonus. Is this possible? We plan to stay at Dolphin for 4 days but since the fifth is free, night as well take advantage of that. I also just plan on buying 2 day-tickets (1day day for MK and 1 day for Epcot) since my kids love water and we plan on just staying at the resort to enjoy and relax through iut our stay. Since this is in the property, can we do that? Or do we have to have 5 day WDw tickets, too, since we’re staying at Dolphin for 5 days?

    Reply
    • Thomas says

      October 22, 2017 at 9:59 pm

      Hi Shie,

      This is a great question. It has come up a couple times in our private Facebook group, and it looks like the answer is a tentative “yes.” Several people have done exactly what you want to do. Here are the caveats/advice those folks have given:

      -Call the hotel and talk about this directly to give you some peace of mind.
      -Be aware that the points required might increase between when you have the room held and when you go to redeem points.
      -There is no guarantee. If the hotel overbooks standard rooms, when you switch to points your room may no longer be eligible for points.

      I strongly suggest calling the hotel. They’ll have more info about the specific dates in question and better advise you. Also, consider joining our group if you want more help planning the trip!

      Reply
  83. Brooke says

    April 2, 2018 at 7:53 am

    This plan sounds amazing! Our family will be implementing these strategies for our vacation next year! Quick question, will I be able to redeem the 25,000 points with the Starwood Preferred Card if i already have a different credit card with american express. I know some credit card companies won’t let you take advantage of a sign up bonus like this if you already have a credit card with them.

    Reply
    • Thomas says

      April 2, 2018 at 11:54 am

      Hi Brooke, that’s great to hear! You should be fine with the Amex. Their rule is generally labeled as “once per lifetime” for each specific bonus. So having a different Amex card/bonus is OK, but you can only earn the bonus on the Starwood card once (though you could also get it on the business version of the card, a spouse could earn it on a personal card of their own, etc.) Hope that makes sense, and hope you’ll consider joining our challenge/FB group!

      Reply
  84. mary n says

    June 5, 2018 at 4:56 pm

    I’ve already been through the Chase Gauntlet and am unable to get the Marriott card (but I did get a SW Companion pass!). I see that Starwood no longer offers the 25,000 point sign-up bonus. Are there any other hacks for hotels at Disney?

    Reply
    • Thomas says

      June 5, 2018 at 8:45 pm

      IF you still have UR, one “hack” might be to use the UR for tickets, and then the Capital One Card for hotel rooms. That’s just one idea. I bet there are others!

      Reply
  85. DJ Wetzel says

    July 14, 2018 at 9:31 am

    Quick question, so if both my wife and I open the Marriott card to get the bonus points, would we be able to then combine those points into one account to book 4 consecutive nights? Seems like it would be difficult to book consecutive nights on different transactions using points.

    Thanks!

    Reply
    • Thomas says

      July 16, 2018 at 2:30 pm

      DJ, great. The answer is yes. It just costs $10 USD, which is very reasonable. Marriott allows you to exceed the 50,000 point transfer limit once per year ONLY IF you are making the transfer to complete an award booking. So this would work, as long as you meet those criteria (sounds like you would).

      Reply
    • Thomas says

      July 19, 2018 at 10:45 am

      DJ–I updated my reply to you. I was incorrect on an aspect, but it’s correct now.

      Reply
      • DJ Wetzel says

        July 19, 2018 at 11:27 am

        Thomas,

        That’s awesome! Thanks so much for the clarification.

        Reply
  86. john says

    July 20, 2018 at 8:00 pm

    Best advice is to bring a back pack with insulated thermoses. We always bring 2 per pack and fill with treats. We like trail mix, red vines, and granola bars. We spend about $15 per pack and save 4 times that I water costs alone. Fast passes are a must otherwise you will ride 2 rides each day. Also plan your day otherwise you will get exhausted wondering around the park trying to decide what to do next. Planning makes all the difference.

    Reply
    • Thomas says

      July 24, 2018 at 2:12 pm

      Great tips!

      Reply
  87. James says

    September 11, 2018 at 7:27 pm

    See I should’ve read this blog before going to Disney last year. I went on an impromptu trip with my niece and her kids. We were only going for 1 day but she never told me how much a one day admission would cost. It cost me $140 and I stood there at the Disney entrance counter with my mouth wide open stupefied! Unbelievable!!

    Reply
  88. Kelly says

    September 18, 2018 at 9:04 am

    Hi!

    Has anyone done this towards a Disney Cruise? Would be interested in that possibly, too. love these tips.

    Thanks!

    Reply
    • Thomas says

      September 24, 2018 at 5:27 pm

      Yes, definitely. The Arrival Plus and/or COV would work to save on cruises, because they code as travel. Then, there’s also the possibility of booking cruises with Chase: https://www.richmondsavers.com/how-to-book-a-cruise-using-chase-ultimate-rewards-points/

      Reply
  89. george says

    September 28, 2018 at 1:27 am

    With Disney entry and accommodation prices being so high, this is the best advice one could get on how to go there with the family for free. Thanks for the great post.

    Reply
  90. lara leroy says

    October 28, 2018 at 9:37 am

    Would this work for Universal Orlando Tickets as well?

    Reply
  91. ginger stelk says

    February 4, 2019 at 5:59 pm

    Im just reading this article. We have been piecing together cards and points for a bit without having read this. My question is, Is the part 1 of your article about hotels still accurate? Meaning has anyone discovered any other ON property hotels that can be redeemed on credit card rewards?

    Reply
  92. Al says

    April 19, 2019 at 2:38 pm

    Every one of your tips is for credit cards, there are some of us that are credit card free.
    We have been buying disney giftcards at a 5% discount throughout the year. They sell them as low as $25 (15 online) the cards can be used on most things Disney. Hotels, park tickets, food or at there stores. My kids got them as gifts in the year added them to there magic bands and they loved buying there own stuff in park.
    I know it’s not free trip but its prepaid.
    Some of the giftcards were bought with swagbucks that was free money.

    Reply
  93. Mike says

    April 25, 2019 at 2:49 pm

    There are some major costs that are missing from this article, while the Sheraton Buena Vista Hotel has a low point redemption for a stay it charges $19/night to park your car, $31/night resort fee, and if you get breakfast here it is $19.5/night. Be careful of the hotels in this area as they try to rank higher on travel sites by offering a cheap nightly rate offset by high resort and parking fees (which cannot be paid by points). These additional fees don’t show up in initial online rankings.

    Second issue with using points to redeem park tickets is if you are a FL resident and your trip is 3-4 days, the cheapest tickets are available directly from Disney (which is coded as entertainment by Chase). So you just have to buy them from disney unless you were willing to waste chase points for 1:1 redemption. Undercover tourist can be a good option if you are going for >5days.

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